They also have a rich tradition of sponsoring revolutionaries too.
The West only sponsors troublemakers when they need a proxy. The West detests nationalists in power unless they can be used against a neighbour. Ideology is nothing. Control everything.
And the extreme right in Ukraine has a global or extra-national dimension...they are in league with nutters from across the world, especially North America and Scandinavia. Just like the originals in the 30s and 40s who were pan-European racists, not genuine nationalists.
Yes. The Christchurch shooter in New Zealand made a pilgrimage to Ukraine, and the Buffalo shooter in the United States had expressed his support of the various neofascists there.
These had to be quickly swept under the rug, as they sullied the narrative.
The trouble is that the rubbish going on Ukraine will corrupt the USA itself. Convergence (acknowledged or otherwise) is integral to global integration. And corrupt politicians and the intelligence communities on both sides are the perfect means to fortify this process.
I'd put it differently. Zelenskiy is an opportunist who fronts a puppet regime, a police state run by gangster politicians, extremists and the intelligence services on behalf of a consortium of foreign powers (America, EU, UK, Canada).
The ideology is a blend of historic ethnic grievances (a political and ideological legacy of one or two regions plus the Ukrainian diaspora), authoritarianism and PR bullshit. The delusions run deep and the regime has been played by the US. Genuine nationalists would have built up the Ukraine, not deindustrialise and depopulate it for NATO and the multinationals. Zelenskiy was a cynical choice by the kingmakers, who wanted a weakling in power. The Ukraine is a political project in a state fast approaching collapse.
Thanks. I find that unless people are explicit about what they mean by such terms, Left and Right are meaningless.
As far as the political class, the alignment is more about personal greed and geopolitics. The ultra-nationalist bloc in the Rada are 'Left' in that sense, but in no other. The Ukrainian Irish and Scottish nationalists hope to leverage the geopolitics of the day to their advantage. I would not bet a penny on their chances of success.
Given replacement level immigration, the loss of agency attendant on integration into the global economy under neoliberal rules and the 'Rainbow' pieties of their allies (masters in all but name), their nationalism is as quaint as green dye in the beer on Saint Patrick's day. In the case of Ukraine the absurdity is magnified to catastrophic proportions because the Banderists (Banderisty?) cannot admit that they are just like their forebears: utterly disposable puppets of alien masters reveling in opportunities to express hatreds that make them ever more defenceless against foreign exploitation.
In my opinion the only serious nationalists in the Western bloc are Orban, Netanyahu and the Japanese and these are very cautious. The rest are nationalist in their self-understanding and posturing only.
The West has a rich tradition of sponsoring right wing nationalists. This is nothing new.
They also have a rich tradition of sponsoring revolutionaries too.
The West only sponsors troublemakers when they need a proxy. The West detests nationalists in power unless they can be used against a neighbour. Ideology is nothing. Control everything.
And the extreme right in Ukraine has a global or extra-national dimension...they are in league with nutters from across the world, especially North America and Scandinavia. Just like the originals in the 30s and 40s who were pan-European racists, not genuine nationalists.
Yes. The Christchurch shooter in New Zealand made a pilgrimage to Ukraine, and the Buffalo shooter in the United States had expressed his support of the various neofascists there.
These had to be quickly swept under the rug, as they sullied the narrative.
usa has no qualms propping the corrupt, as long as they obey the rules based dominion of empire.
The trouble is that the rubbish going on Ukraine will corrupt the USA itself. Convergence (acknowledged or otherwise) is integral to global integration. And corrupt politicians and the intelligence communities on both sides are the perfect means to fortify this process.
I'd call the Zelensky government left-wing nationalists.
I'd put it differently. Zelenskiy is an opportunist who fronts a puppet regime, a police state run by gangster politicians, extremists and the intelligence services on behalf of a consortium of foreign powers (America, EU, UK, Canada).
The ideology is a blend of historic ethnic grievances (a political and ideological legacy of one or two regions plus the Ukrainian diaspora), authoritarianism and PR bullshit. The delusions run deep and the regime has been played by the US. Genuine nationalists would have built up the Ukraine, not deindustrialise and depopulate it for NATO and the multinationals. Zelenskiy was a cynical choice by the kingmakers, who wanted a weakling in power. The Ukraine is a political project in a state fast approaching collapse.
Why left-wing? I don't understand.
They're nationalist but they want to align with the liberal powers: US/NATO and EU. Like Ireland and Scotland.
Thanks. I find that unless people are explicit about what they mean by such terms, Left and Right are meaningless.
As far as the political class, the alignment is more about personal greed and geopolitics. The ultra-nationalist bloc in the Rada are 'Left' in that sense, but in no other. The Ukrainian Irish and Scottish nationalists hope to leverage the geopolitics of the day to their advantage. I would not bet a penny on their chances of success.
Given replacement level immigration, the loss of agency attendant on integration into the global economy under neoliberal rules and the 'Rainbow' pieties of their allies (masters in all but name), their nationalism is as quaint as green dye in the beer on Saint Patrick's day. In the case of Ukraine the absurdity is magnified to catastrophic proportions because the Banderists (Banderisty?) cannot admit that they are just like their forebears: utterly disposable puppets of alien masters reveling in opportunities to express hatreds that make them ever more defenceless against foreign exploitation.
In my opinion the only serious nationalists in the Western bloc are Orban, Netanyahu and the Japanese and these are very cautious. The rest are nationalist in their self-understanding and posturing only.