Catalonia's Failed Independence Drive, What Do the Chinese Think?, Northern Ireland and the Politics of Demography, Censored Leftist Media, The Cashless Society
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The illusion that secession and sovereignty can be achieved at the ballot box is a very useful fiction from the point of view of the liberal democratic world order. It lulls secessionist movements into the trap of imagining that they can achieve their goals without developing the sources of hard and soft power upon which sovereignty ultimately rests. Leadership then invest their time in referenda, while the rank and file fail to develop the sort of belligerent fanaticism required to motivate a militant struggle. Central authorities then have plenty of options to prevent secession: rigging the referendum, as may have happened in Scotland; increasing the immigrant population, as was done in Quebec between the 70s FLQ crisis and the 1995 referendum; or if all else fails, naked force.
An overweening faith in liberal proceduralism is a more general handicap for dissident movements, too. It's easy to forget that the protections and rights nominally awarded by the liberal order will be happily suspended by that same order when directly challenged, that challenge being viewed as a state of exception. See e.g. the financial warfare waged against the trucker convoy or dissident media outlets.
The vote in favor of separation was 60% among francophones, but was defeated by a 98% No vote among anglophones and other minorities. What would have happened had the Yes won? I believe an exit for Quebec would have been negotiated.
Yep. That was the end of his career. I was a teenager at the time, and remember being baffled that it was even controversial as it seemed like a very obvious factor in their narrow defeat.
Worse, it violates Canada's ruthlessly enforced yet incoherent multicultural ideology. We're all Canadians, regardless of background, and background is officially irrelevant to electoral politics (aside from when it's convenient to be relevant, which is often). That applies to being Quebecois by extension.
It could certainly be framed that way. Following the troubles of the 70s, it seems that a fairly large number of immigrants were sent to Quebecois cities, with the intent being at least in part to dilute support for sovereignty.
A canonical example of what it takes to make a new nation is Michael Collins and Ireland. Collins was the first Irish independence leader in centuries willing to murder both British officials and Irish traitors to ruthlessly keep the momentum going towards the Irish Free State.
He was a banker who also studied for the Custom’s Exam, the Custom’s House in Ireland was the center of British administrative control. No doubt useful knowledge for gun running .
Singapore from Malaysia is another good example -- Brexit more recently.
When the strife really gets underway in the US and EU, the separatists will have their chance.
In many cases, I don't think there will be much choice. If you are a somewhat functional state and the dollar collapses, why continue dealing with fedgov who you are already suing six ways from Sunday over fundamental constitutional issues? They are only a liability at that point.
Well, we have a very different view of things. I don't see anything particularly serious about USG. Their behavior, without exception now, strikes me as reckless, self-destructive, incompetent, corrupt, megalomaniacal. A debtor that sanctions its own creditors while simultaneously courting hyperinflation is not concerned with keeping power. I think we're basically in pump and dump mode now. Same for the OSHA mandates, defeated in courts -- the only branch that sometimes works: had the feds managed to insist on this, they would only have declared their own irrelevance; no possibility of compliance or settlement after such a decree. Christ, the military is poisoning their own personnel and covering it up! There's a deadly serious chance those folks will die of cancer or AIDs in the coming years.
Meanwhile, Eurasia is looking awfully serious these days. No rainbow flags over there.
USSR was pretty serious, too, I guess, until it wasn't.
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All the countries China has favourable views towards are always the ones that China wishes to subdue. Everyone who thinks that China and Russia wouldn't be at their necks if it wasn't for the US is delusional.
But, it kinda seems like the countries China sees UNfavorablly are also ones it wants to subdue, like Vietnam and Japan and the US. IDK. Am I misunderstanding it?
They know they can't subdue these ones. They still want to be ahead though, but as Niccolo said, China is in a mutual death grip with most of these, subduing someone means dominating them - impossible for the countries you mentioned, at least for now, we have yet to see how the pages of history shall turn.
See Catalan post, talking isn’t serious either, free speech wasn’t actually free, Croatian and American Independence wasn’t free, Québécois got a busy themselves , we can go on-
Muh free speech isn’t any more serious than Voting or Liberal Procedurialism.
Congrats to Russia for edging out Pakistan in the Chinese popularity contest! The backwards satrapies loathed by my enemy are my friends. Though other than government and heavy industry employees, don’t see too many Chinese voluntarily choosing to live or attend school in either of these two favorites, compared to the US and UK.
As an American political & news junkie for about 40 years now, I've always lamented with seething disgust the lack of education in, and subsequently media coverage of, the rest of the world. The foreign students with whom I attended college in the early 80's usually knew MORE American history than even I did -- and yet I knew virtually NOTHING of the history of any other country.
Anyway, this is my way of praising Niccolo & his commenters on this Substack for helping further my education. It's also jarring to get outsiders' views & criticism of the USA. And Catalonia? Where in the hell is that? [I did go look it up ... a little embarrassing & pathetic.]
Shedding blood for your political goals seems indeed to be the minimum required threshold, at least from my experience as a Romanian directly involved, as a child, in our bloody revolution that ended up with the army shooting and killing people that were chanting near me. Will never forget the horrors of that night, the blood, the torn limbs still inside a cheap rubber winter boot, the running away in terror with my mother while bullets flew by and people were crying in pain. Later, my mother would return to her hospital job to see the bodies in morgue, only to be taken away to be cremated by our secret police.
That was not the end of it, I lost 2 of my closest friends in the Yugo conflicts, both Serbs youths that crossed the Danube illegally with the gasoline traffickers to fight against "the Turks". As a Romanian, even then, I understood why they did it and why they thought their lives were worth it, even as it crushed their families completely. I understood the historical legacy that was transmitted onto us each generation, to defend Europe from invaders, to accept our role as border guards that are often sacrificed so the core can remain safe. A legacy that has been made into a mockery, of course, after so many died for it.
So yes, I think blood remains the price that is historically proven to maybe change important things.
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The illusion that secession and sovereignty can be achieved at the ballot box is a very useful fiction from the point of view of the liberal democratic world order. It lulls secessionist movements into the trap of imagining that they can achieve their goals without developing the sources of hard and soft power upon which sovereignty ultimately rests. Leadership then invest their time in referenda, while the rank and file fail to develop the sort of belligerent fanaticism required to motivate a militant struggle. Central authorities then have plenty of options to prevent secession: rigging the referendum, as may have happened in Scotland; increasing the immigrant population, as was done in Quebec between the 70s FLQ crisis and the 1995 referendum; or if all else fails, naked force.
An overweening faith in liberal proceduralism is a more general handicap for dissident movements, too. It's easy to forget that the protections and rights nominally awarded by the liberal order will be happily suspended by that same order when directly challenged, that challenge being viewed as a state of exception. See e.g. the financial warfare waged against the trucker convoy or dissident media outlets.
Governments will guard their own sovereignty over territory with incredible vigour, agreed.
The breakup of Czechoslovakia was an exception, no?
Definitely. Which is why I qualified my statement.
...in the main body of the Substack
The vote in favor of separation was 60% among francophones, but was defeated by a 98% No vote among anglophones and other minorities. What would have happened had the Yes won? I believe an exit for Quebec would have been negotiated.
Parizeau got savaged by the media for pointing this out. They went as far as calling him an anti-semite.
Yep. That was the end of his career. I was a teenager at the time, and remember being baffled that it was even controversial as it seemed like a very obvious factor in their narrow defeat.
He told the truth, although that perspective violates the principle of one person one vote, regardless of mother tongue.
If Lucien Bouchard had been in charge from the beginning, or even for a couple more months during the campaign, the Yes side would have won.
Worse, it violates Canada's ruthlessly enforced yet incoherent multicultural ideology. We're all Canadians, regardless of background, and background is officially irrelevant to electoral politics (aside from when it's convenient to be relevant, which is often). That applies to being Quebecois by extension.
Was the Quebec referendum a test of multiculturalism?
I distrusted the bureaucracy of the Quebec government, not my francophone neighbours. Culturally, we are very similar.
It could certainly be framed that way. Following the troubles of the 70s, it seems that a fairly large number of immigrants were sent to Quebecois cities, with the intent being at least in part to dilute support for sovereignty.
What a out the Basque county, they had no issue with violence and I'm sure a referendum would have been one
Ireland itself is the scene of a great replacement, according to Dave Cullen and others.
The Irish have given themselves wholly over to global liberalism.
A canonical example of what it takes to make a new nation is Michael Collins and Ireland. Collins was the first Irish independence leader in centuries willing to murder both British officials and Irish traitors to ruthlessly keep the momentum going towards the Irish Free State.
He was deadly serious.
He was a banker who also studied for the Custom’s Exam, the Custom’s House in Ireland was the center of British administrative control. No doubt useful knowledge for gun running .
Bloodless separations do occur, of course: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_Czechoslovakia
Singapore from Malaysia is another good example -- Brexit more recently.
When the strife really gets underway in the US and EU, the separatists will have their chance.
In many cases, I don't think there will be much choice. If you are a somewhat functional state and the dollar collapses, why continue dealing with fedgov who you are already suing six ways from Sunday over fundamental constitutional issues? They are only a liability at that point.
Suing.
The US Govt is deadly serious about keeping power, I’m not seeing the same from anyone else.
Well, we have a very different view of things. I don't see anything particularly serious about USG. Their behavior, without exception now, strikes me as reckless, self-destructive, incompetent, corrupt, megalomaniacal. A debtor that sanctions its own creditors while simultaneously courting hyperinflation is not concerned with keeping power. I think we're basically in pump and dump mode now. Same for the OSHA mandates, defeated in courts -- the only branch that sometimes works: had the feds managed to insist on this, they would only have declared their own irrelevance; no possibility of compliance or settlement after such a decree. Christ, the military is poisoning their own personnel and covering it up! There's a deadly serious chance those folks will die of cancer or AIDs in the coming years.
Meanwhile, Eurasia is looking awfully serious these days. No rainbow flags over there.
USSR was pretty serious, too, I guess, until it wasn't.
Catalonia lends credence to calling the EU the EUSSR.
I rarely use cash. As long as the payment system works as its supposed to, I won't be changing my habits.
The content moderation movement is an extension of 'good guy' syndrome. We, your representatives, are always the good guys, so our actions are reasonable and justified by their very nature.
The Catalans sound very American 🇺🇸! And Conservative!
😂🤡
All the countries China has favourable views towards are always the ones that China wishes to subdue. Everyone who thinks that China and Russia wouldn't be at their necks if it wasn't for the US is delusional.
But, it kinda seems like the countries China sees UNfavorablly are also ones it wants to subdue, like Vietnam and Japan and the US. IDK. Am I misunderstanding it?
They know they can't subdue these ones. They still want to be ahead though, but as Niccolo said, China is in a mutual death grip with most of these, subduing someone means dominating them - impossible for the countries you mentioned, at least for now, we have yet to see how the pages of history shall turn.
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See Catalan post, talking isn’t serious either, free speech wasn’t actually free, Croatian and American Independence wasn’t free, Québécois got a busy themselves , we can go on-
Muh free speech isn’t any more serious than Voting or Liberal Procedurialism.
Want it?
Take it.
Or take what they give you.
22 min read, definitely getting my money's worth this week LOL
Congrats to Russia for edging out Pakistan in the Chinese popularity contest! The backwards satrapies loathed by my enemy are my friends. Though other than government and heavy industry employees, don’t see too many Chinese voluntarily choosing to live or attend school in either of these two favorites, compared to the US and UK.
As an American political & news junkie for about 40 years now, I've always lamented with seething disgust the lack of education in, and subsequently media coverage of, the rest of the world. The foreign students with whom I attended college in the early 80's usually knew MORE American history than even I did -- and yet I knew virtually NOTHING of the history of any other country.
Anyway, this is my way of praising Niccolo & his commenters on this Substack for helping further my education. It's also jarring to get outsiders' views & criticism of the USA. And Catalonia? Where in the hell is that? [I did go look it up ... a little embarrassing & pathetic.]
Glad you are enjoying being here
good stuff as always
Thanks man
Shedding blood for your political goals seems indeed to be the minimum required threshold, at least from my experience as a Romanian directly involved, as a child, in our bloody revolution that ended up with the army shooting and killing people that were chanting near me. Will never forget the horrors of that night, the blood, the torn limbs still inside a cheap rubber winter boot, the running away in terror with my mother while bullets flew by and people were crying in pain. Later, my mother would return to her hospital job to see the bodies in morgue, only to be taken away to be cremated by our secret police.
That was not the end of it, I lost 2 of my closest friends in the Yugo conflicts, both Serbs youths that crossed the Danube illegally with the gasoline traffickers to fight against "the Turks". As a Romanian, even then, I understood why they did it and why they thought their lives were worth it, even as it crushed their families completely. I understood the historical legacy that was transmitted onto us each generation, to defend Europe from invaders, to accept our role as border guards that are often sacrificed so the core can remain safe. A legacy that has been made into a mockery, of course, after so many died for it.
So yes, I think blood remains the price that is historically proven to maybe change important things.