Yarvin as Eminence Grise of the US Right, The Social Recession, China to Stay the Course/Resist Americanization At All Costs, Rishi's Poisoned Chalice, Peak-Click Internet
What sort of time you call this? I just conducted a rigorous scientific investigation as a result of which for the better edification of yourself and my colleagues I report nowhere on Earth is it Saturday.
Oct 30, 2022·edited Oct 30, 2022Liked by Niccolo Soldo
Moldbug is no more threat to any soft or hard power than any other blogger. He could be advocating for cloning Hitler and making him God Emperor, it would be the same.
It was enlightening for me to revisit the story of Scott Alexander Siskin, also more or less "just a prolific blogger", who was doxed and given the 2-minutes-of-hate treatment by the Megafons of Sauron 2 or so years ago.
He took his blog offline, now it's back.
These people don't even get think tank funding. In Hungary we have more money shoved into "Soros blogs" than all the money given to Western dissident writers together. Our backwater of 10 million worths supporting thousands of paid shills who push the same agenda that you can also get from Netflix anyway, dubbed in Hungarian.
There's something so petty about "investigating" bloggers like Yarvin by media that gets its funding from the DNC or owned by Disney or the Saudis or both.
The underlying death wish, I want you to be under public pressure, fired, blacklisted and to die on the street makes this viciously nasty. Meanwhile, anime avatars on twitter advising the same journos to "learn to code" get the ban immediately, that's somehow more antisocial.
„Karl Marx famously concluded that capitalism alienates the worker from the means of production.“
Social atomization is not the same thing as worker alienation. In fact the latter is one of the weakest parts of Marx’s philosophy, and since he’s really talking about industrial societies it’s not clear how nationalising the factories helps one bit. There’s also a contradiction where he sees workers being alienated from each other by capitalism but also forming a well socialised class that can seize the means of production as a unified group.
Atomization is a product of modern society, though it’s hard to see how to reverse that too.
Moldbug as eminence grise of US right? The person who fills that role will have to be more authentically Christian adjacent/sympathetic. Plus I’ll have to indulge in calling out his GAE-aligned Covid perspective, which cannot be reconciled with the rank and file, regardless of how backroom his influence is. The dynamics of the US right are evolving quickly and, I’d argue, not directionally towards his candidacy
Wittgenstein once wrote that if lions could speak, we would not be able to understand them. This sums up the situation with Curtis Yarvin (may his roar be strong!).
The regime-compliant are now fast evolving into a sub-species that cannot readily communicate or understand, let alone empathise with, others. Yarvin is anything but a fascist. Those who understand Yarvin do not necessarily agree with him. Nor should they. The good guru is not the one you disagree with, but the one who gets you to understand, to think for yourself. Yarvin is outstanding at this. because he is (regardless of his shortcomings) an iconoclast.
Yarvin is waking people up. He is essential. He is the only political theorist in the USA who is offering new ideas to the public. The rest are either apologists for the regime or pimps for seedy political sects and cliques.
The social recession is further proof that politics is war by other means. Leviathan/Cthulhu thrives on anomie and despair. The post-liberal state (which is actively Sado-Malthusian) seeks its advantage, above all its security, in the demoralisation of the masses. Those forces that foster cohesion at the grassroots level (stable heteronormative families, but also enduring friendships, communal feeling, inherited forms of social and cultural life, organised religion) threaten it. As Leviathan/Cthulhu develops and grows stronger, people will become weaker and sicker. Fostering isolation is an essential part of this.
The irresistible mood has struck me at roughly one third through your nourishing write-up.
In a way, Yarvin’s Cathedral = a fancier term for key echelons of McConkey’s managerial class 😉 Sure, the prescriptions of what to do differ.
An opportunity not to be wasted to plug The Circulation of Elites, a stack brimming with well-researched insightful content if costumed in somewhat dry academic attire → https://thecirculationofelites.substack.com/ 😇
1) I'd agree about the Marxist notion of alienating the workers if we were in a capitalist system but I can't because I don't believe we are any longer.
2)I find it deeply disingenuous when anti-brexit activists blame Brexit for the UK's current issues when they are clearly resulting from ~15 years of money printing (especially during Covid), covid lockdowns and now anti-Russian beligerance causing an energy crisis.
3) Anyone paying attention will have been aware of Labour's stated positions over those same issues, plus the BLM riots, and thus should know they've been on the wrong side at every step ie; more lockdowns, more beligerance, more BLM grift, more globalist totalitarianism.
Re atomisation, it is becoming clear in my homeland that if it is nobody's business what you do, the corollary is nobody cares what you do. The end point will be nobody cares, period. And the crap media describing everyone from trans to gay to GAA, horse racing people whatever as a community is rendering the word meaningless.
Our national broadcaster sees our serious and growing housing crisis as something that will give strength to right wing populism, which is awful. There is no right wing here with everyone chasing the socially liberal vote. Literally no right wing. There is no party to represent the over 33 pc who voted against gay marriage or liberalising abortion law. The notion is that they are old.
My point is that Yarvin fills a liberal need, they need him. Masters is too intelligent to give too many hostages to fortune. Ditto Vance.
I skimmed the Curtis Yarvin piece and will go back for a deep read later. But while Niccolo’s article is still new:
(1) Yarvin’s first step is for someone to campaign and win on “I am going to assume absolute power in Washington and rebuild the government”. In what world will this happen?
Every president we’ve had recently but Trump was approved by the system and all of them had Democrat or Republican support. If a Republican speaks like this, “fascist!”, and a Democrat will not speak like this as they enjoy the status quo… for now, at least.
I don’t see winning a popular vote as being part of regime change in America.
(2) America aggressively suppresses what it perceives to be its greatest internal threats. Marxist-inspired class movements (unions, socialism, communism) were a common collection of threats.
The typical pattern is “first, violence; second, co-opting”. Read about the bloody history of unions, how effective they used to be, and how weak they are after being co-opted.
If Yarvin presented an actual threat to the United States, would the FBI not be at his doorstep and the NSA tracking all of his supporters online? Look at what Trudeau did to the Freedom Convoy.
Perhaps the state does not recognize him as a threat, perhaps he’s ahead of his time and will prove prophetic in a few decades, or perhaps my view of “America suppresses and co-opts the most dangerous movements that threaten it” is wrong
The UK trap is presented as austerity vs more crushing debt to help the common people- I wonder if these are the only 2 choices? We’re all in the same trap.
Debts and Deficits are of course stealth taxes on all especially the commons, and the debt payments just eat up the budget.
The answer I think is take the petrodollar to the next logical step of actual energy money: 1 KwH = 1$ (actually a Dime 10 cents is roughly current rate average). The energy has real value, wars are fought for energy and justly. Say Shilling or Euro KwH for England and Europe.
The problem of inflation spiking energy costs causing vicious loop is solved, Inflating energy tied money actually lowers many if not all costs- more cheap money from ever cheaper energy.
Not to mention you can drill, mine, solar, wind, nuke your way out of debt.
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What sort of time you call this? I just conducted a rigorous scientific investigation as a result of which for the better edification of yourself and my colleagues I report nowhere on Earth is it Saturday.
Moldbug is no more threat to any soft or hard power than any other blogger. He could be advocating for cloning Hitler and making him God Emperor, it would be the same.
It was enlightening for me to revisit the story of Scott Alexander Siskin, also more or less "just a prolific blogger", who was doxed and given the 2-minutes-of-hate treatment by the Megafons of Sauron 2 or so years ago.
He took his blog offline, now it's back.
These people don't even get think tank funding. In Hungary we have more money shoved into "Soros blogs" than all the money given to Western dissident writers together. Our backwater of 10 million worths supporting thousands of paid shills who push the same agenda that you can also get from Netflix anyway, dubbed in Hungarian.
There's something so petty about "investigating" bloggers like Yarvin by media that gets its funding from the DNC or owned by Disney or the Saudis or both.
The underlying death wish, I want you to be under public pressure, fired, blacklisted and to die on the street makes this viciously nasty. Meanwhile, anime avatars on twitter advising the same journos to "learn to code" get the ban immediately, that's somehow more antisocial.
„Karl Marx famously concluded that capitalism alienates the worker from the means of production.“
Social atomization is not the same thing as worker alienation. In fact the latter is one of the weakest parts of Marx’s philosophy, and since he’s really talking about industrial societies it’s not clear how nationalising the factories helps one bit. There’s also a contradiction where he sees workers being alienated from each other by capitalism but also forming a well socialised class that can seize the means of production as a unified group.
Atomization is a product of modern society, though it’s hard to see how to reverse that too.
Moldbug as eminence grise of US right? The person who fills that role will have to be more authentically Christian adjacent/sympathetic. Plus I’ll have to indulge in calling out his GAE-aligned Covid perspective, which cannot be reconciled with the rank and file, regardless of how backroom his influence is. The dynamics of the US right are evolving quickly and, I’d argue, not directionally towards his candidacy
Wittgenstein once wrote that if lions could speak, we would not be able to understand them. This sums up the situation with Curtis Yarvin (may his roar be strong!).
The regime-compliant are now fast evolving into a sub-species that cannot readily communicate or understand, let alone empathise with, others. Yarvin is anything but a fascist. Those who understand Yarvin do not necessarily agree with him. Nor should they. The good guru is not the one you disagree with, but the one who gets you to understand, to think for yourself. Yarvin is outstanding at this. because he is (regardless of his shortcomings) an iconoclast.
Yarvin is waking people up. He is essential. He is the only political theorist in the USA who is offering new ideas to the public. The rest are either apologists for the regime or pimps for seedy political sects and cliques.
The social recession is further proof that politics is war by other means. Leviathan/Cthulhu thrives on anomie and despair. The post-liberal state (which is actively Sado-Malthusian) seeks its advantage, above all its security, in the demoralisation of the masses. Those forces that foster cohesion at the grassroots level (stable heteronormative families, but also enduring friendships, communal feeling, inherited forms of social and cultural life, organised religion) threaten it. As Leviathan/Cthulhu develops and grows stronger, people will become weaker and sicker. Fostering isolation is an essential part of this.
Many will fall, but The Wang will remain
The irresistible mood has struck me at roughly one third through your nourishing write-up.
In a way, Yarvin’s Cathedral = a fancier term for key echelons of McConkey’s managerial class 😉 Sure, the prescriptions of what to do differ.
An opportunity not to be wasted to plug The Circulation of Elites, a stack brimming with well-researched insightful content if costumed in somewhat dry academic attire → https://thecirculationofelites.substack.com/ 😇
A couple of thoughts;
1) I'd agree about the Marxist notion of alienating the workers if we were in a capitalist system but I can't because I don't believe we are any longer.
2)I find it deeply disingenuous when anti-brexit activists blame Brexit for the UK's current issues when they are clearly resulting from ~15 years of money printing (especially during Covid), covid lockdowns and now anti-Russian beligerance causing an energy crisis.
3) Anyone paying attention will have been aware of Labour's stated positions over those same issues, plus the BLM riots, and thus should know they've been on the wrong side at every step ie; more lockdowns, more beligerance, more BLM grift, more globalist totalitarianism.
Re atomisation, it is becoming clear in my homeland that if it is nobody's business what you do, the corollary is nobody cares what you do. The end point will be nobody cares, period. And the crap media describing everyone from trans to gay to GAA, horse racing people whatever as a community is rendering the word meaningless.
Our national broadcaster sees our serious and growing housing crisis as something that will give strength to right wing populism, which is awful. There is no right wing here with everyone chasing the socially liberal vote. Literally no right wing. There is no party to represent the over 33 pc who voted against gay marriage or liberalising abortion law. The notion is that they are old.
My point is that Yarvin fills a liberal need, they need him. Masters is too intelligent to give too many hostages to fortune. Ditto Vance.
Dead Internet Theory diagnosis *feels* premature as long as we keep being gracefully Fisted by Foucault 😜
I skimmed the Curtis Yarvin piece and will go back for a deep read later. But while Niccolo’s article is still new:
(1) Yarvin’s first step is for someone to campaign and win on “I am going to assume absolute power in Washington and rebuild the government”. In what world will this happen?
Every president we’ve had recently but Trump was approved by the system and all of them had Democrat or Republican support. If a Republican speaks like this, “fascist!”, and a Democrat will not speak like this as they enjoy the status quo… for now, at least.
I don’t see winning a popular vote as being part of regime change in America.
(2) America aggressively suppresses what it perceives to be its greatest internal threats. Marxist-inspired class movements (unions, socialism, communism) were a common collection of threats.
The typical pattern is “first, violence; second, co-opting”. Read about the bloody history of unions, how effective they used to be, and how weak they are after being co-opted.
If Yarvin presented an actual threat to the United States, would the FBI not be at his doorstep and the NSA tracking all of his supporters online? Look at what Trudeau did to the Freedom Convoy.
Perhaps the state does not recognize him as a threat, perhaps he’s ahead of his time and will prove prophetic in a few decades, or perhaps my view of “America suppresses and co-opts the most dangerous movements that threaten it” is wrong
The UK trap is presented as austerity vs more crushing debt to help the common people- I wonder if these are the only 2 choices? We’re all in the same trap.
Debts and Deficits are of course stealth taxes on all especially the commons, and the debt payments just eat up the budget.
The answer I think is take the petrodollar to the next logical step of actual energy money: 1 KwH = 1$ (actually a Dime 10 cents is roughly current rate average). The energy has real value, wars are fought for energy and justly. Say Shilling or Euro KwH for England and Europe.
The problem of inflation spiking energy costs causing vicious loop is solved, Inflating energy tied money actually lowers many if not all costs- more cheap money from ever cheaper energy.
Not to mention you can drill, mine, solar, wind, nuke your way out of debt.
Yarvin actually wants a Start up President, an FDR to reboot our government. As far as the Constitution that’s a restoration.