#MAGACommunism?????, Classical Liberalism vs. The New Right, UK Economy in Dire Straits, US to EU: Cut Down on Trade With China Now!, the Revolutionary Jean-Luc Godard
Ran into maga communism for the first time over on the RWA boys discord; Iām still doubtful about it, but it is encouraging to see left-wingers breaking themselves out of their deeply engrained programming and recognizing the one development that (I think) truly scares the powers that be is a joining of the ends of the political spectrum and the recognition that the entire system is the problem
Iāve been a viewer of Infrared collective (Al Din) for well over a year now, this is a fundamental break from the left that think revolutionary potential comes from service sector slaves in urbanized cities. Leftists donāt entertain this idea because theyāre biggest fear is having the masses of America determine the route of the country, which also means culture. Leftists hold up democrats for this exact reason, itās the only thing keeping their social sphere afloat. Iāll forward this to the infrared community, good piece.
"Perhaps most of all, it is dangerous when āhow much can we trust elites?ā becomes a major dividing line in society."
Did a ctrl-f on Tyler's piece with "elite". Oh boy.
While Hungary is not a high trust society (maybe middle, in-between), I can assure Tyler (if anti-elitism is his biggest reservation) that he has nothing to worry about: here the Right wins hard power with a massive majority, yet the Left controls the soft one, dominating it. People loathe both elites, and both elites loathe each other. The culture war is ever so vicious. Yet somehow societal trust increased in the past 15 years by all measures.
We do have very clean elections, done on paper ballots, observers from both block preset at every voting place. If the US is facing a fatal societal trust issue, it already had a taste of it in November 2020, and the mid-terms can also turn ugly.
The classical liberal debate is interesting. Itās very fashionable to skewer āliberalismā and wish for based tyranny but in fact thereās little classically liberal about our modern government. The idw dorks kind of see this but seem to think they can just resurrect liberalism through facts and logic. A lot of the new right was influenced by libertarianism but being autists I think that they actually mapped out what engineering would have to be done to restore proper rule of law, property rights etc and realized that it would require a rather illiberal temporary changing of the guards using a state of exception
MAGA is a (admittedly clever) political slogan. Thatās it. The only person so far with the charisma needed to lead a movement and actually overthrow the current system never understood the power he derived/could wield through the mechanisms of the US government because he was too busy trying to figure how he could build resorts in North Korea. What are we even talking about??
Oct 23, 2022Ā·edited Oct 23, 2022Liked by Niccolo Soldo
If you want to get a sense of the state of the American hard left, visit the WSWS (World Socialist Web Site). I used to read their articles until they went all-in with the Covid pandemic response.
āBuild Back Better, WORLDā had me laughing. Reminds me of the idiotic business plan from the movie Stepbrothers, āPrestige, WORLDWIDE!!!ā. That this initiative is supposed to counter China and instead promotes gender equality is just perfect comedy. When people mention āBrazilificationā of the U.S, I no longer think of the country of Brazil but rather the Terry Gilliam directed movie. Tyler Cowenās critique of the new right falls pretty flat to me when weāre already living in clown world.
The dual socialist and libertarian critique of the new right(alt right, NRx, MAGA, etc) is interesting and reminds me of something BAP tweeted about being able to tell whether someone in the new right had previously been a Ron Paul fan. From his tweets BAP seemed more skeptical of those that had come from socialism than libertarianism.
On turbo America: America as the global hegemony has been talked about for 30 years, however itās really only in the last few years it could be described as āturboā. Do you think this change is due to younger elites replacing Cold War veterans? Changing cultural mores, i.e. woke? The demographic decline and āsoft powerā decline of Europe as a competing liberal influence? I ask because I find it hard to believe the U.S. military and economy are in a better spot than they were 20 years ago, yet America acts like it is.
I work at a left-wing college campus that was subjected to a nearly-successful hostile takeover by an ad hoc faculty coalition of communists and racial nationalists in the wake of George Floyd Summer.
It didn't dawn on me that a Croatian colleague whose neighborhood was bombed in the early 90s would think it's good to inflame racial hatred in The New World over things that happened generations and centuries ago, but commie gonna commie.
āThey can join leftists in demonizing MAGA supporters ā¦ or they can sacrifice ideological purity and side with the only mass working-class and anti-establishment movement that currently exists in America. There is no middle path.ā
100%. I donāt trust any leftist who supports the status quo or believes in democratic change
In Marxist-Leninist circles, Iāve commonly encountered the sentiment that America needs to have its āfascist revolutionā before it is ready for a communist one. They perceive class conscious to be suppressed enough that a communist revolution is impossible; the various state control apparatus are too strong. The destruction of the status quo, by any means is necessary, is needed for communism to succeed in America
From what Niccolo writes, it seems the most likely outcome is the liberals taking over the state, but smoothly, with the support of the elites. This keeps state apparatus intactā¦ the ones the communists expect to weaken to allow their revolution
Weāll see what happens but Niccolo is correct, the best thing for any non-systemic opposition is for any non-systemic opposition to succeed, even if that opposition is radically different from your own
Systemic and non-systemic, a good ļæ¼ lens that makes a lot of sense.
Trump is the most significant president of our lifetime. I love saying this to upset people, which it does.
His victory was the beginning of something new as Soldo tells us in the first piece.Trumpās brilliance was in gaming the system defeating both the Rs and the Ds. In office he was a Buffon that fought with everyoneļæ¼. But even that has become a feature not a failing; people let down by the system have rallied around him and his petulant rudeness. If the elite want a revolution, excluding Trump could cause it. I know, some portion of the elite has to join the dispossessed for anything to change, but negating Trump might send people like me into the street. The safest bet would be to let him run potentially win and then bumble his way through another four years: he canāt change anythingļæ¼ļæ¼ļæ¼.
Our elite are very smart but made dumb by their arrogance. They could blow this whole thing up by excluding him.ļæ¼ļæ¼ļæ¼ļæ¼
The reason America looks politically incoherent is because people get confused trying to describe it as a whole, when in fact they should be describing it as the ruling pragmatic elite class, and the irrelevant tards and plebe, which contains vooters and various pseudopolitics groups like the rainbow and minority alliance, the MAGApedes, Qtards, NRxers, WN, libs and cons and hell knows what else.
The ruling elites have proper political and economic goals, and are socially indifferent, or at least try to be neutral. They are deeply, financially invested in the American project and its dominance, and want it to continue to succeed. Lives of the plebe are of small relevance, depending on their ability to play nice and be the correct type of needed useful idiot for a specific period.
The ruling class is Machiavellian and high IQ, and pursues its goals with the persistence of a child stricken with the 'tism. Collateral damage is largely irrelevant, as long as the masses can be pacified with some crumbles.
If you write about these elites, you're not part of them, basically.
tyler cowen is a fucking moron. high trust society is dead because of immigration policies pushed by his dipshit buddies at cato and the mercatus center. Only way to rectify is to have serious right wingers (i.e. normal people) in power and to clear out the institutions.
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Ran into maga communism for the first time over on the RWA boys discord; Iām still doubtful about it, but it is encouraging to see left-wingers breaking themselves out of their deeply engrained programming and recognizing the one development that (I think) truly scares the powers that be is a joining of the ends of the political spectrum and the recognition that the entire system is the problem
Why do you separate the academia as non-systemic (part of the left)?
Iāve been a viewer of Infrared collective (Al Din) for well over a year now, this is a fundamental break from the left that think revolutionary potential comes from service sector slaves in urbanized cities. Leftists donāt entertain this idea because theyāre biggest fear is having the masses of America determine the route of the country, which also means culture. Leftists hold up democrats for this exact reason, itās the only thing keeping their social sphere afloat. Iāll forward this to the infrared community, good piece.
"Perhaps most of all, it is dangerous when āhow much can we trust elites?ā becomes a major dividing line in society."
Did a ctrl-f on Tyler's piece with "elite". Oh boy.
While Hungary is not a high trust society (maybe middle, in-between), I can assure Tyler (if anti-elitism is his biggest reservation) that he has nothing to worry about: here the Right wins hard power with a massive majority, yet the Left controls the soft one, dominating it. People loathe both elites, and both elites loathe each other. The culture war is ever so vicious. Yet somehow societal trust increased in the past 15 years by all measures.
We do have very clean elections, done on paper ballots, observers from both block preset at every voting place. If the US is facing a fatal societal trust issue, it already had a taste of it in November 2020, and the mid-terms can also turn ugly.
The classical liberal debate is interesting. Itās very fashionable to skewer āliberalismā and wish for based tyranny but in fact thereās little classically liberal about our modern government. The idw dorks kind of see this but seem to think they can just resurrect liberalism through facts and logic. A lot of the new right was influenced by libertarianism but being autists I think that they actually mapped out what engineering would have to be done to restore proper rule of law, property rights etc and realized that it would require a rather illiberal temporary changing of the guards using a state of exception
MAGA is a (admittedly clever) political slogan. Thatās it. The only person so far with the charisma needed to lead a movement and actually overthrow the current system never understood the power he derived/could wield through the mechanisms of the US government because he was too busy trying to figure how he could build resorts in North Korea. What are we even talking about??
Tyler Cowan describing classic liberalism:
...and protection against pandemics.
That is the most ridiculous tack-on I've seen to date. Protection against pandemics is a hallmark of Woke Liberalism and American Trotskyists.
If you want to get a sense of the state of the American hard left, visit the WSWS (World Socialist Web Site). I used to read their articles until they went all-in with the Covid pandemic response.
I'm undecided if they're insane, or a CIA front.
https://www.wsws.org/
āBuild Back Better, WORLDā had me laughing. Reminds me of the idiotic business plan from the movie Stepbrothers, āPrestige, WORLDWIDE!!!ā. That this initiative is supposed to counter China and instead promotes gender equality is just perfect comedy. When people mention āBrazilificationā of the U.S, I no longer think of the country of Brazil but rather the Terry Gilliam directed movie. Tyler Cowenās critique of the new right falls pretty flat to me when weāre already living in clown world.
The dual socialist and libertarian critique of the new right(alt right, NRx, MAGA, etc) is interesting and reminds me of something BAP tweeted about being able to tell whether someone in the new right had previously been a Ron Paul fan. From his tweets BAP seemed more skeptical of those that had come from socialism than libertarianism.
On turbo America: America as the global hegemony has been talked about for 30 years, however itās really only in the last few years it could be described as āturboā. Do you think this change is due to younger elites replacing Cold War veterans? Changing cultural mores, i.e. woke? The demographic decline and āsoft powerā decline of Europe as a competing liberal influence? I ask because I find it hard to believe the U.S. military and economy are in a better spot than they were 20 years ago, yet America acts like it is.
Appreciate the articles, excellent as always.
I work at a left-wing college campus that was subjected to a nearly-successful hostile takeover by an ad hoc faculty coalition of communists and racial nationalists in the wake of George Floyd Summer.
It didn't dawn on me that a Croatian colleague whose neighborhood was bombed in the early 90s would think it's good to inflame racial hatred in The New World over things that happened generations and centuries ago, but commie gonna commie.
āThey can join leftists in demonizing MAGA supporters ā¦ or they can sacrifice ideological purity and side with the only mass working-class and anti-establishment movement that currently exists in America. There is no middle path.ā
100%. I donāt trust any leftist who supports the status quo or believes in democratic change
In Marxist-Leninist circles, Iāve commonly encountered the sentiment that America needs to have its āfascist revolutionā before it is ready for a communist one. They perceive class conscious to be suppressed enough that a communist revolution is impossible; the various state control apparatus are too strong. The destruction of the status quo, by any means is necessary, is needed for communism to succeed in America
From what Niccolo writes, it seems the most likely outcome is the liberals taking over the state, but smoothly, with the support of the elites. This keeps state apparatus intactā¦ the ones the communists expect to weaken to allow their revolution
Weāll see what happens but Niccolo is correct, the best thing for any non-systemic opposition is for any non-systemic opposition to succeed, even if that opposition is radically different from your own
Fiat capitalism is opposed to the free market economy. And. I don't know any communist that promotes communes let alone live in one.
Otherwise interesting ideas to consider.
Systemic and non-systemic, a good ļæ¼ lens that makes a lot of sense.
Trump is the most significant president of our lifetime. I love saying this to upset people, which it does.
His victory was the beginning of something new as Soldo tells us in the first piece.Trumpās brilliance was in gaming the system defeating both the Rs and the Ds. In office he was a Buffon that fought with everyoneļæ¼. But even that has become a feature not a failing; people let down by the system have rallied around him and his petulant rudeness. If the elite want a revolution, excluding Trump could cause it. I know, some portion of the elite has to join the dispossessed for anything to change, but negating Trump might send people like me into the street. The safest bet would be to let him run potentially win and then bumble his way through another four years: he canāt change anythingļæ¼ļæ¼ļæ¼.
Our elite are very smart but made dumb by their arrogance. They could blow this whole thing up by excluding him.ļæ¼ļæ¼ļæ¼ļæ¼
The reason America looks politically incoherent is because people get confused trying to describe it as a whole, when in fact they should be describing it as the ruling pragmatic elite class, and the irrelevant tards and plebe, which contains vooters and various pseudopolitics groups like the rainbow and minority alliance, the MAGApedes, Qtards, NRxers, WN, libs and cons and hell knows what else.
The ruling elites have proper political and economic goals, and are socially indifferent, or at least try to be neutral. They are deeply, financially invested in the American project and its dominance, and want it to continue to succeed. Lives of the plebe are of small relevance, depending on their ability to play nice and be the correct type of needed useful idiot for a specific period.
The ruling class is Machiavellian and high IQ, and pursues its goals with the persistence of a child stricken with the 'tism. Collateral damage is largely irrelevant, as long as the masses can be pacified with some crumbles.
If you write about these elites, you're not part of them, basically.
tyler cowen is a fucking moron. high trust society is dead because of immigration policies pushed by his dipshit buddies at cato and the mercatus center. Only way to rectify is to have serious right wingers (i.e. normal people) in power and to clear out the institutions.