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Your guess is as good as mine.

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How will you be following the vote on Election Night? Trolling on twitter? Watching a Youtube Livestream? Taking a nap as usual?

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Sadly, I expect election fraud, again.

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lol

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Yeah well they won't explain the real reason...

The voting machines are easily manipulated by the companies that program them and there's no hacking needed in this case.

Instead the fake duopoly focuses on mail in and other small things ignoring that elephant in the room.

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Yep. Plus, the parties tightly control who even gets their names on the ballot. Here in GA, it is nearly impossible (even at the county level). It is totally rigged.

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Both parties deserve to be dissolved in acid - I can’t see any way that anything gets better regardless of who wins tomorrow. S h a m b l e s.

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100%. The US would benefit so much from a multi-party system, which is painfully clear right now.

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In as first-past-the-post winner take all system such as the US, the multiparty system likely would devolve into a two-party system.

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I meant changing the first-past-the-post system that reinforces a two-party model, not just adding more parties to the existing model. Maine's Ranked Choice Voting approach would be a much better system for the entire country.

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How does it differ from Western European parliaments? I look at France and cannot say I think that system produces better results, especially after this past summer.

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A Multi-party system would result in a much more sclerotic government, which would yield a significantly increased bureaucracy, as evidenced by a cursory glance at every other nation with multiparty systems, but especially the EU parliament.

Given that the chief complaint of the American regime is the entrenched "Deep State," a multi-party system would probably not be an improvement over the status quo.

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"Deep State" has little to do with political parties, it's almost entirely about civil servants that are permanently protected from layoffs regardless of performance.

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12 hrs ago·edited 12 hrs ago

Yes. And my point is: a multi-party system would need to rely on these civil servants even more than the 2-party system the US has, because there would be too much turnover in the legislature. We already see this in the congress with the standing committees having permanent staff.

More civil servants -> more bureaucratic entrenchment -> stronger Deep State

Or is your point that, even with a 2-party system, we still can't fire these unelected bureaucrats, so the whole point is moot anyway?

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Not just turnover, but a legislature unable to agree upon anything.

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Anerica will inly survive if it changes course.

Major reform is necessary. Trump and his D.O.G.E. concept is the only feasible way.

The democrats are Big State and Status Quo. Trump, while flawed, is reform and shake up.

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Used to think that too, but Eugyppius showed me how things work in Germany’s multi-party political system.

I think the crux of the problem is how political parties gain control of the inner mechanics of politics (look at what they did to RFKjr), and then control the individual representatives that “we the people” elected, with money, perks, and the internal congressional rules that the parties themselves make up.

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Germany has a multi party system that seems to spend most of its energy figuring out ways to make sure voting can't change the government.

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Yep and both parties will never address the real fraud.

The voting machines are easily manipulated by the companies that program them and there's no hacking needed in this case.

Instead the fake duopoly focuses on mail in and other small things ignoring that elephant in the room.

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I think Trump wins handily. His campaign seems to have momentum and enthusiasm, while the Harris campaign seems perfunctory. Democrats may have come to terms with another Trump presidency and are anticipating using him as a scapegoat for misadventures such as the Ukraine war.

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William Goldman: "Nobody knows anything"

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No idea.

How long will it take to get a definitive answer? Election Day? days after? weeks?

Either way, the losing side will claim fraud or foreign actors interfered.

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https://polymarket.com/event/what-day-will-the-ap-call-the-election

Tuesday 19%

Wednesday 49%

Thursday 16%

Friday 7%

After Nov 20 -- 5%

So, 90% chance we know before the weekend, 5% chance it takes several weeks, according to betting markets.

DecisionDeskHQ says:

GA and NC we should know the result by 9 or 10pm

WI should be known by midnight

PA should be 95% complete by Wednesday morning

MI should be known by Wednesday evening

AZ and NV will take a few days to report, since a third of the vote is from mail in ballots

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Something is going to happen

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Really hoping Kamala pulls through. I don't want 4 more years of having to hear about the president. If Kamala wins, people will talk about things that matter.

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Ya thi

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founding

Jackson, so you like turbo America

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I don't like America

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In this a trolling post? We spent 4 years not doing anything about things that matter. I’m over words. I want action!

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You'd be lucky if you even get words tbh

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In summer/fall 2016, when it was clear Trump could not win in a landslide, I figured he'd found a cleavage in modern America that made the country unsustainable. I predicted civil war in 11 years if he won, 6 years if he lost. Only things I'd change since:

1) I realize now that the violence is always initiated by the left, and

2) we may have already had a Civil War, one that ended at Charlottesville 2017 with every American institution approving of left-wing political violence

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Your definition of "civil war" seems to be "mild disturbance followed by favorable/unfavorable news coverage for one side" ?

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Government has a monopoly on violence. Leftist mobs had been attacking people for months throughout 2017, and right wingers started fighting back that spring (Berkeley, Portland) making someone's death inevitable. After Charlottesville it was clear that virtually everyone in government and media was fine with violence that is left-wing, while opposing violence that was right-wing. The only person who dared suggest otherwise was Trump, who was raked over the coals for it. Hence the clarity of a new domination by a left-wing regime.

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Tree of Woe's prediction tree (https://treeofwoe.substack.com/p/this-election-prepare-for-the-unexpected)

Harris, if Harris wins the electoral vote;

Trump, if Trump wins the electoral vote, and Democrats do not object under the Electoral Count Act and 14th Amendment;

Harris, if Trump wins the electoral vote, Democrats object under the Electoral Count Act and 14th Amendment, and Trump acquiesces to the objection;

Trump, if Trump wins the electoral vote, Democrats object, Trump appeals against their objection to

the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court rules that Trump cannot be disqualified under the 14th Amendment;

The Speaker of the House, if Trump wins the electoral vote, Democrats object, Trump appeals against their objection to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court rules that the Electoral Count Act is unconstitutional, triggering the 20th Amendment, triggering the Presidential Succession Act; and

Virtually anybody, if the above comes to pass and the Presidential Succession Act is deemed unconstitutional… And I haven’t even exhausted all the possibilities.

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The epicenter of fraud, real or otherwise, will be PA. It will be weeks before we know who wins.

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If Harris were to win, she would be able to withdraw from Ukraine without Team D howling about her being a "Putin puppet!". Not that she wants to.

Were Trump to win, he would continue to prove weak, stupid and easily manipulated. Team D would pretend to care about human rights again.

EDIT: Another potential benefit from a Trump victory is that America's various satraps, puppets, lackeys, buttbois, catamites and vassals might be less willing to blindly accept orders coming from a gauche loudmouth buffoon such as Trump.

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Trump or Harris, the West is not even thinking of giving up Ukraine.

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It is coming down to a men vs. women election, and women are both higher turnout on average and a higher overall fraction of registered voters. They're probably more likely on average to have their shit together and get registered on time, vote early, mail in a ballot on time, etc. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see Harris EC >320. On the other hand Trump is polling better than he ever has - did the statisticians really find a way to accurately sample his support this time? I'm skeptical. If they're off by even 1%, wouldn't be surprised at all to see Trump EC > 320.

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founding

OK, here’s my take on the election.

Our goodly author said that Trump is 90% with the program of the elites, and he, soldo, wondered aloud why they are so obsessed with him. Trump certainly enjoys the Elite’s program of ravenous self enrichment, but he is contrarian on forever war, woke ideology and the immigrant invasion. Trump’s a clever huckster, and these grievances were simply low hanging fruit for him. In 2015 I highly doubt he thought he would win. But he did and now I think he has a certain messianic self image and now the failed assassination attempt has cemented it: he is the chosen one. Funny how the world works.

Kamala is a Cypher for the regime, nothing more.

I think Trump’s real contribution was that he mocked the regime . He called them stupid, and they obliged him by acting stupidly. The regime is now fully incompetent and he blew them up.

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Nothing ever happens.

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Pray for us Niccolo

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